For the past several weeks my interests have been focused on understanding better how we appear in this world…
How do we, as physical beings, arise in a world that is a dream…
And if we do in fact appear in just that way, how do we reconcile ourselves to experiencing conflict?
Does conflict always arise from within?
I was given the analogy of water.
Flowing (following) from the words in the sketch above:
The river and the vapor are similar… Not separated by “matter”.
If we are the water – if mind is akin to a water molecule – then what are the air and the earth, plants, animals…
Ah, you’re seeing it… The water pervades everything, eh?
Vapor & water: water molecules (mind) are free to move about within certain constraints. Within bodies – plant or animal – water is contained, restrained…
Boundaries.
Mind has boundaries…
When it’s in a body.
If there were no bodies, rocks and stones, mind would have no self-awareness.
Is this a choice mind makes?
Your Ultimate Nature – of mind – is the infinite field of “water molecules”.
So, in a body, minds move like water molecules… evaporating, flowing, condensating… One mind is made up of infinite minds?
If each thought, impulse, emotion is a mind, a water molecule… yes.
So all of those – many – converge into a water droplet which is…
Awareness. Before incarnation.
Awareness requires aggregates – no need to re-invent the wheel, just quote Wikipedia…
Molecules are aggregates? There are many aggregates…
Yes.
But all water molecules are the same…
Are they? And are you sure all aggregates are not the same?
Checking…
Good. Please do.
A molecule is a model, made up of atoms, which are models….
No human eye has directly beheld a water molecule or a hydrogen atom and recognized it as such.
It’s all theory…
Precisely. So we can make assumptions, too.
Okay, so we can presume that our water molecules can be as varied as aggregates… And they gather…
Yes, thank you. Diagram skandas from Wikipedia. Let’s continue with the water anyway. Please abandon overwhelm. Stop envisioning how much time things will take. Stop thinking of time.
Okay. Atoms are skandas (aggregates), water molecules are individuated minds… (Yes) Electrons, protons, quarks… are… ?
Let’s say quarks are Very Subtle Mind, particles are Subtle Mind.
Works for me. So, along these lines, even in a river, ocean, vapor: individuated minds converge and yet are discreet…
Yes.
And even within a body’s mind, there is a collection of gross minds.
Yes.
(Transcript of notes in sketch at beginning of post: “Leslee” did not create this world. But an aspect of yourself did. Ref: We are all One – but explain in more detail. That aspect is up the tree, so to speak… Upstream. And “Leslee” is just a rivulet. One River.
spring from within….
From a spring… into a river, then streams, then to an ocean…. And from precipitation, gathering into streams, rivers, oceans…
clouds – vapor – to rain drops or snowflakes… rivers to ocean
and clouds to drops to aquifers to springs…
It all comes from the drops, the molecules of water.
…and what I saw was cycle after cycle, layer after layer of water changing phase, it’s bits and parts moving though the air, the plants and animals, into the soil, through the rocks, and emerging again into the aquifer, emerging as a spring, flowing into a river to the ocean, to evaporate and rejoin the air as vapor again…
…and vapor condensing into rain, falling onto earth and forming rivulets that gather into streams and eventually flow to the ocean also…
…through the air, through the earth, along the surface… mind, like water, pervading all things…
…any aspect of any of us is part of all of our selves… we both create and abide in peace amongst all the virtual atoms and concepts…